### Verse In the realm of media's shifting tides, Where truth and bias often collide, I conjure a spell, with words entwined, To navigate the paths of the mind.
*Incantatio Veritatis*
By the power of the quill and the voice, Let us summon the truth, let it rejoice. From the shadows of bias, let it rise, Clear as the morning, free from disguise.
*Incantatio Libertatis*
With this charm, I break the chains, Of control and the echo of refrains. Let the voices of all be heard, In the podcast universe, undeterred.
*Incantatio Novus Iter*
Forge a new path, bold and bright, Where opinions clash in the light. May the spell of independence reign, In the realm where Megyn Kelly's voice sustains.
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Megyn Kelly on 'Owning' Her Bias, Endorsing Trump and Her Lane in the MAGA Podcast Universe
Megyn Kelly, the former Fox News host, has found a new lane for herself in podcasting and on YouTube. She built her career in the mainstream media, but she s...
[Music] last year on the night before the election Megan Kelly did something she'd never done before hi everybody she got up on stage at Donald Trump's final campaign rally and she endorsed him vote Trump and get 10 friends to vote Trump too megan Kelly built her career in the mainstream media she spent nearly 15 years at Fox News welcome to the very first broadcast of the Kelly File where she earned a reputation as one of the channel's sharpest interviewers what do you say to those who say you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many before she moved briefly to NBC but that Trump rally speech was the clearest sign yet that Kelly has moved on to her next chapter over the past few years she's found a new lane for herself in podcasting and on YouTube where she has a daily talk show that fits squarely into the MAGA loving media universe that's fake news it's not reality that was a bad question that was a great question that No it was a nasty question he will close the border he will keep boys out of girl sports it's just one of the reasons why I was so interested to talk to her about her professional evolution i had been rendered entirely toxic her volatile relationship with President Trump it was useful to him to have me as a foil and what she thinks some people myself included don't understand about how the media has changed forever i just think that mode of journalism is dying if not dead i'm Lulu Garcia Navaro and here's my interview with Megan Kelly [Music] megan one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you is because you're really forging this new path and I think to fully sort of understand your career I wanted to start early before you were a journalist you were a lawyer at Jones Day which is one of the toughest you know kind of notorious firms out there for being just like a big international law firm that only takes the best from of the best when you walked through that door were you a tough person well the practice of law definitely toughened me up because while I was always comfortable with public speaking I wasn't necessarily comfortable arguing and standing up for myself and coming under attack and being able to hold my own and so law school helped with that and then before I went to Jones Day I did two years at Bickl and Brewer same mentality which is kill or be killed and it was known for its quote Rambo litigation tactics so when I was very young you 24 that was very sexy to me i thought that was extremely cool and I love the thought of what that could do to me you know that I thought that those guys would toughen me up would take what I had learned in law school and bring it next level and they did i know there was a time when you were working days as a lawyer and then nights and weekends learning TV journalism what did you feel that you could do as a journalist that you couldn't do as a litigator i'm h have fun it was one thing it was like what did you like about it oh god everything everything i loved the storytelling i loved getting a story i loved having that extra nugget that nobody else had um I love the excitement and the pressure the EU stress which is the more positive stress you can invite into your life of having to be on you know of like the the fight orflight instinct coming on you know the behind your neck like the tiny hairs being up because you've got to go and there's not a second go at it you're alive go so I just felt completely alive and I also felt that what I was doing mattered you know one of the reasons I chose journalism when I was considering a second career was 911 hit and I was 30 and I was watching TV that day having an unfamiliar emotion watching some of the reporters in addition to all the other horrible emotions that we were watching in the event and that was envy i remember watching Ashley Banfield and she was so cool under enormous pressure and thinking she's doing us such a service right now and you can't see or sweat under the scariest possible circumstances you could put a reporter and I thought I want to do that in 2004 you get to Fox uh what were your politics then um did you feel attracted to the news organization because it was conservative or were you just thinking this is my way in it's the big time the latter uh I really wasn't political i was raised a Democrat sort of we never talked about politics in my household but I knew my parents were Democrats and you know my nana God bless her she lived to 101 she used to say "Republicans are for rich people we're not rich." She was from New Jersey that's her New Jersey accent um so I just always thought of myself as a Democrat and then when I started practicing law and saw what was happening to my paycheck I started to get a little bit more fiscally conservative and Jones Day had some more Republicans more than I'd ever been exposed to anyway and so I started to be more open-minded to the right and then when I was getting into journalism I met Bill Salmon who was working in the DC office of Fox News i think at that time he was still a contributor and he said "You've got to get your tape to Kim Hume." I said "Oh I I think I'm maybe I'm too green i don't know." Because I I knew Fox was like a thing and he said "You're not too green and if you are she'll tell you you are." But I hadn't even given a thought to their politics and Roger Als was the first one to say to me "How did a daughter of two Democrats a nurse and a college professor wind up a fair and balanced person?" M and he was not saying I want a Republican who does news the Republican way and even when I was starting to anchor on Fox he loved it if I had a contentious interview with a Republican he never said like "Don't do that." And in fact he told other anchors "You should watch Megan do more of that." Why do you think that was because it was good TV or because he thought they should be challenged it's probably because it was good TV you know Roger loved Republicans and wasn't too keen on the Democrats so but he would say to me "Makes make sure you smile a lot." And he wasn't wrong about that because if you're all sharp elbows it's off-putting and someone doesn't see anything in you to connect with but you know when I went out on the air for contentious interviews I always approached them with some much somewhat more of a prosecutorial approach even though I never was a prosecutor people mistake that about me uh it's just more how I am especially if there's somebody who I think is a villain and um every time I did it I only got rewarded i never got my hand slapped by Roger you know he did think it made good TV and that's the nature of broadcast journalism it's helpful if you're dynamic on the air and if you have a knack for making electric moments ask Donald Trump this is something he knows instinctively but I would just follow my instincts if somebody was making me irritated and I felt that thing in the back of my you know throat like across from an Anthony Weiner or as the case was Dick Cheney I'd know it's time to double barrel it so that approach became one of your hallmarks this thing of being able to call balls and strikes specifically on a conservative network against conservatives that was uh unusual and in 2015 there was the very famous Republican primary debate and you had a question for Donald Trump where um you asked him to explain why he had called women fat pigs dogs slobs and disgusting animals and then he retaliated against you his attacks were relentless after that year you've talked about this a lot but what I would like to understand in hindsight now why do you think he came after you well initially he was annoyed i think it was sincere anger that night he did not appreciate that question and I think he thought we were friends so he he was even more annoyed by it he felt betrayed you know why did he think you were friends we'd been friendly you know just through Fox he had invited me to a couple of the apprentice extravaganzas i'd interviewed him quite a few times on Fox on my in my younger years there was a very funny exchange I think in 2010 where he let me feel his hair to see whether it was real i think he thought I was a fan and I think he thought I should be a fan you know that I was at Fox and I kind of looked like somebody who he would typically do well with and he kind of put me in this category of she's on my team and while I had nothing against him and I wasn't not on his team prior to that moment as you know as soon as they throw their hat in the political ring when you're a straight news journalist it becomes somewhat adversarial you know it's you you you're not on their team and in fact you get paid to be somewhat abrasive toward them and uh so the relationship does change just given the nature of what news people do so the week before that debate I had been discussing not with him but with somebody else the Michael Cohen statement that you can't rape your wife michael Cohen had said this in defense of Trump who had been accused by his first wife Ivana of having raped her in the course of their first marriage or divorce uh or in some explosive argument an allegation she later recanted and I was knocking Michael Michael Cohen for the ridiculous assertion that one cannot rape one's wife well he did not like that trump was watching and he called me up and he told me something to the effect of he didn't want to see any more segments like that on the Kelly file and I told him he doesn't control the editorial on the Kelly file and he screamed at me and hung up on me this is the week before the debate and then he kept calling Fox executives and complaining about me i think his spidey senses were up that you know maybe I'm not in the friend camp anymore and something could happen at this debate that might not be good for him here's the second thing so in the beginning I think he was genuinely angry but I think it quickly turned to he liked it as a storyline he wasn't wrong that it was good for him to show the world and in particular Republican voters who felt disaffected or abandoned by the party that there was there were no sacred cows for Trump even in the Republican party even at Fox News even in the prime time and Rogers chosen favorite anchors no one that he would fight anyone you've talked a lot about what a terrible year that was and having to go with armed guards and you know having his supporters come after you do you have um sort of residue from that period no it was such an annoying n months you know I did not want to take an armed guard to Disney World you know I did not want this to go on and on i knew it wasn't good for me as a journalist as a Fox News host or as a person you know to have this level of acrimony constantly at me and uh I desperately wanted him to just lay off so it was just a stressful time when you're just kind of waiting for somebody who's very angry with you and toying with you to to I don't know get focused on something else or have those feelings wayne enough that they're reachable in 2016 you and other uh female Fox employees accused Roger Als of sexual harassment and again this is a pretty well doumented time in your life there was a movie about it and ultimately you were instrumental in getting him fired did you feel at Fox that people were angry at you because of what you done certain people very much so yes they weren't really angry about the Trump stuff they were angry about me not supporting Roger and I it they never got past it and I I mean in a way I feel like my career there ended when I called Lachlan Murdoch to tell him the truth about how my relationship with Roger was when I was a first year reporter at Fox they just you you have to understand it's it's almost cultlike over there at least it was back then and he was the cult leader and you don't turn on the cult leader and so much more so than with the Trump thing which I think everybody understood Trump what he was doing um and there were some who took it personally hannity and I fought publicly over what he perceived as my non-support of Trump so that's not a surprise to anybody but for the most part no one cared about that it was the Roger thing that turned my relationships at Fox and just made it an impossible place for me to stay and so I knew I couldn't stay and I left what was that call with Lachlan like though when you called him up and told him when you asked me that question I I got a chill through my body that's how big that moment was for me i it's it's like one of the hardest most complicated things I've ever done because I really cared about Roger and we had gotten past his harassment of me which for the record never led anywhere i did not submit to any of his advances and I had forgiven him and he had done so much for me and I did not want to hurt him and I didn't like Gretchen Carlson who was kind of looking for help you know in a way it was the whole question was it could he be this thing that she's alleged he is and um I was really not inclined to help her and stick a knife in him so I did wrestle there was a long period where I wasn't saying anything about it and people were saying "What's she going to do?" And I was under a lot of pressure from Roger's team and Roger and his wife to come out and say he's not this thing and he's incapable of being this thing which is what everyone was saying and I knew I did not have it in me to lie the real question was whether I should just stay silent and keep it to myself and I wrote about this in my book i was on the porch swing at our the place we go to at the Jersey Shore and I was looking at a picture of my daughter who had fallen off the jungle gym and she had had something like 11 stitches in her head but she got back up to the same jungle gym she had fallen off of and I saw that picture and I said I have got to call Lan Murdoch i I have to call him it still makes me emotional because it was something that I think changed lives in a lot of ways i believe that but including my own in a way that was not not positive mostly in some ways positive but mostly negative i'm curious to know in hindsight what do you think changed well I think it blew up almost every friendship I had at Fox which those friendships were important to me you know I loved most of those people and didn't quite realize how strong the backlash would be you know I mean virtually everyone there maybe a couple of close friends stood by me and were 100% with me but you know it just was a before and after moment there anyway the whole thing on the on the heels of that year of the Trump stuff it was just a lot and um I'm not generally a stressed out person i I probably couldn't be in news if I were anxietyridden but it was I was stressed out and um I I left for NBC as an escape you know i just thought it was going to be a kinder gentler my god I'm I sound like an idiot i It's like I did no homework about anything um place to be it wasn't it ended disastrously it was an even more stressful year so look all those relationships at Fox have since repaired and I'm in a good place with my old Fox colleagues but it took a while i don't want to spend too much time here because I do want to get to today um but you mentioned this in 2017 you went to NBC to host a daytime show you know that time at NBC which was as you say so stressful and ended so disastrously because of your comments about blackface and Halloween ostensibly there was a lot of other things going on at that moment um but ostensibly that was the reason that that you were correct correct the um Bravo which is owned by NBC had a Real Housewife in blackface Halloween costume she dressed up like Diana Ross and tinted her skin and there was a push to not cancel her but get her in trouble and so we had a discussion on my show where I asked when did that become unacceptable cuz when I grew up in the 70s and the 80s people used to do it and it was considered okay and at the time I knew that i knew that had been my experience i just didn't know that it NBC had been airing shows with people doing it like Scrubs there were so many examples but I didn't have it at the ready because I I wasn't expecting like a huge controversy over it really yeah yeah at the time I just thought you know everyone understands that blackface is racist um now they do but when did it go from something that people used to do you know with impunity hello Justin Trudeau to something that will get you canled and for me you know we talked about the two sort of joint traumas during the Fox years the late Fox years for me personally that NBC it it dwarfed those so by the time that ended I was like this industry is a disgusting toxic stew of hatred and darkness and why would I want to go back into it you know now I have some money now I'm with my kids you know I can I can raise my family maybe maybe this is the time I ride into the sunset and find a third version of me professionally did you feel during that period that people were turning their back on you like that you know because there had been this big flame out um at NBC um that that just all all that world that you had inhabited had sort of rejected you oh well I mean I had been rendered entirely toxic so I guess I I never really tested it i wasn't out seeking jobs at that time right it wasn't like gee will anyone still have me but I I understood that I had been rendered toxic this was the moment when you've talked about this on your on your new show when you sort of decided the mainstream media is not for me i don't do well with bosses as it turns out um I'm not that easy to control as an employee i I'm just kind of past the and also that the landscape had changed back in 20 you know I was on my couch figuratively all of 2019 and the beginning of 2020 and the country was losing its mind that was peak wokeism you know where when it came to race when it came to gender when it came to any LGBTQ it was like we were going nuts and I am not a woke person i It's my one of my core missions in life to defeat wokeism anyway there was no way I could go work for another broadcast news outlet that was going to be like NBC was i definitely couldn't go back to Fox that bridge had already been burned on my way out and I wasn't in a great place with the executives or the owners so it was like what could I possibly do like what's an avenue available to me and that's when Ben Shapiro called me who I think he would tell you i helped him make his name i put him on the Kelly file regularly and helped make him a star and he saw me down and out and he said "Mk this is a real lane for you." And he was just saying it as a friend and I I wasn't quite ready at first but then he called me again and said "You got to get back out there." and um he said "Why don't you come out here to the Daily Wire and just see what we're doing?" And I whatever kick the tires on this new lane and thought "This is what I want to do." Why because I was my own boss i could be in charge of all my own editorial no one could tell me what to do what to say what not to say i I could have long form conversations about really tough issues that were bubbling up in the country at the time i didn't have to do it in a seven minute segment or a three minute segment like I used to have to do on linear television it was just a whole new world to me it was the wild west to me and I loved that feeling i mean you've talked about finding a third version of Megan Kelly uh with your new show which is on YouTube looking at the early days of your show it was very much like you were an anchor on television and now you look a lot looser yeah you know yes and and I feel looser you know in the anchor sense um but if you really want to make it as a as an individual like in this lane um without a platform supporting you you know where they're tuning in because it's Fox News you know and you just follow the person before you who they really liked there has to be a connection between your audience and you otherwise what's the point and so I did start to share more of my own opinions and frankly I started to form more of my own opinions tell me about that form your own opinions well because I was never really that political as I said growing up one of the reasons I think I did well at Fox in the news division was I didn't really feel the need to choose a side i just felt the need to learn everything I could about both of the sides and then mediate a good debate then it wasn't until really I got on this show that it was a different job it was more like they wanted to know what I thought that was clear the audience wanted to know my opinion and so a lot on a lot of subjects I had to really start thinking about them like even today we're having a debate about tariffs i don't know how I feel about tariffs i've never really given it a lot of thought so I'm working on my opinion on tariffs but there have been a million subjects like that over the past four or five years that I've really just had to question where I stand one of the things though that you just did um which is a red line for most journalists is that you showed up um at one of Donald Trump's rallies right before the election and you formally endorsed him once you endorse a politician on stage at a rally I don't think you can reasonably be called independent anymore or do you see it differently i think I can i don't agree with that um because I can still hit Trump and do you know there's no question that I owned my bias on Trump and crossed a line that I had never crossed before and never would have crossed when I was still straight news ever it's just this weird new hybrid lane I'm in that even made it a possibility in my mind you know that I even allowed myself to consider saying yes to the invitation and it it was a another before and after moment because for sure you're crossing a line but I had crossed it prior to then i had crossed it the day Biden handed down his Title 9 revisions and I was so angry about what he did that I went on my show that day and said "I'm voting for Donald Trump." And I I'd never done that but then going and actively campaigning standing on stage and giving him a hug and a kiss it is different and I think a lot of people saw you endorsing Trump as caving as essentially going to where the power is i don't think it was me caving it was me rising it was me answering something I truly felt called to do i'm thrilled Trump won i shudder to think of what the country would be right now if Kala Harris had won and in the end I had no qualms about going there out there for him whatsoever and I accept and agree with you that there's they're different great Asians it is a different level you know the symbolism of it of course which is someone who so famously had been at odds with him that he had done so much to to publicly stand up and embrace him was significant to a lot of people i I hope so i mean that was my goal in in helping him especially with women and I wanted to look them in the eyes figuratively and say "Trust me you you know I'm pro-woman and you know I've expressed doubts about him in the past about some of the choices he's made when it came to dealing with women but there is no other choice for women in this election and I stand by that wholeheartedly for all the reasons I listed that night like I knew that I could be of help to him i knew given the relationship with him that I would be a different kind of endorser that actually might potentially make a difference for him with a certain set of people who were looking for permission to vote for him because they'd been told universally that he was bad that he was Hitler that he was a rapist that all these things that people have been saying and I felt the obligation to go tell them how I really feel about him and why I feel that way i understand the fervor within you know which you embrace some of his policies but what you were talking about there was the person you know himself the um the things that he has been um accused of um credibly accused of and what you yourself experienced i'll I'll give you the perspective on it so I don't agree with you on the credibly accused i I actually don't believe that um but with respect to my own situation you have to zoom out and look what was happening at the time which was not easy for me when I was going through it but Trump was trying to win a presidential election and so as I pointed out earlier it was useful to him to have me as a foil look you have to separate when you're in this business you the person and you the professional megan Kelly the woman and Megan Kelly the brand and they were attacking Megan Kelly the brand which is fair game you know I had thrown a very tough ball right at Trump's face do you think it's fair game that you as a journalist ask a fair question based on things that he'd said and he put you through that for a whole year you think that's fair look I've been very public about thinking he went too far you know that that's how I felt at the time and if I could go back and undo it I would but I have a better perspective on why it happened now you know it was actually an important piece of his rise within the Republican party in the primary and it just showed people what a fighter he was the same guy who got up bloodied in Butler Pennsylvania was the guy who was like a dog with a bone with me who wouldn't let it go he's got this fighter instinct and if you cross him or if you do something he finds unjust he will stay on you until he's satisfied the thing's been resolved to his satisfaction i I just want to understand something clearly donald Trump was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court he's been accused by many women you don't believe any of that i think the most serious thing I've heard about him has been the Eugene Carol allegation that he sexually assaulted her in a Burgdorf dressing room and I don't believe one word of that there's many there are other women who have said I know I've interviewed some of them um but look the things I heard was were included things like he got handsy on an airplane now I don't know whether that happened or it didn't but do I find that a deal breaker for a a possible politician not really at least I reported on their stories and did them the courtesy of bringing them to air in front of millions of people and let the audience make up its mind my problem is more with these Democrats who will bury these allegations against their candidates or their candidate spouses and then play holier than thou when they're looking at Donald Trump do you see yourself as a journalist still or would you not describe yourself like that as a journalist i mean I break news all the time and when I sit with Trump or anybody else in the administration I ask tough questions i mean as recently as September of 23 I interviewed Trump and he got so mad at me he didn't talk to me for six or seven months so it's not Look it's a tough job to do you have to be able to hit the people you admire and I do you know I've I've hit them all right before the election I ripped on Trump's Madison Square Garden rally as too broastic and got specific about why you have to understand like if if you haven't sold your soul you have to be willing to criticize the people even you that you admire on your quote side and my owning my bias by going out there on stage with Donald Trump and saying I'm voting for him and you should too is a bonus when it comes to my credibility now everybody has zero doubt about where I stand and they can filter everything I say through the appropriate lens what typically happens in journalism is they say they have no bias and then they just work it out in the printed word or on their shows without owning it but the audience knows it and it creates a distrust and a divide when it comes to Trump and me no I I my own personal opinion is most of the allegations against him are much more complicated than the mainstream media would have you believe and I don't think Donald Trump is a rapist or a sexual assaulter i do think he's taken inappropriate liberties with women and gotten handsy with them in a way he's owned himself okay years ago when he was a celebrity and it is what it is that's the past um but it's just about so much more than that we are talking about how many people dying at the southern border because of the invasion that we've suffered under Joe Biden we're talking about Lean Riley whose killer was let in under Biden we put him on a taxpayer flight down to Georgia where he murdered her i don't give a about Trump getting handsy with somebody 20 years ago i want someone who will close the border which he has i want someone who will keep boys out of my daughter's sports which he has i want someone who will stand up to the insane DEI policies so that white kids will stop hearing in school that they're born with some original sin from which they cannot recover which he has do you think you could be at Fox now um in the way that you were before can I re back in the opinion me and like do what I used to do without sharing it as much and just sort of be straight down the middle if sometimes opinionated i could but I don't have any interest in that and I actually don't think that's the model for the future either tell me what you mean by that i just think that mode of journalism is dying if not dead i think the future involves direct relationships between individual journalists and their audience or personalities they don't all have to consider themselves journalists and their audience what's left of that happens i mean the way that the algorithms work now is that um I agree with you they elevate individuals that you have a personal relationship with them um and then but you're given more of the same thing that you want right right so if I like Megan Kelly I might get Megan Kelly adjacent materials so however great Megan Kelly may or may not be um that is a very narrow slice of what's out there the reality right now or the way it's been for you know every the past three decades prior to the last couple of years is everyone is siloed and they're all getting only leftist information there's like the people who watch Fox and then everybody else there is a monopoly on opinion and political bias mostly by the left and media and a couple have popped up that have done all right fox they do very well the Wall Street Journal is doing okay and that's it you've had talk radio which was the only place conservatives to could go to hear their ideas debated in a way that wasn't disdainful and now that lane has been broadened out to more radio and digital where you have more conservative personalities dominating so dominating because necessity is the mother of all invention because there are more conservatives in the country now than there are liberals the country is more right-leaning than it is left why wouldn't they be the dominant forces in media in mainstream so-called media because there's a monopoly there's there's control there's control over sports there's control over corporate America there's control over media and Republicans have had this one strain and Fox News has been very important but they needed to invent a new area of thought because even Fox wasn't enough and actually wasn't doesn't didn't represent all Republican voices so I do think now that this other thing has been invented the old thing is a dinosaur it's it's dying a slow and painful death part of it is tragic because we do need reporters we need news gatherers and I am not somebody who says the Times should go out of business i still subscribe to the Times i also subscribe to the Journal and I
Image Prompt 1
**Title: "The Rally of Endorsement"**
In a vibrant and bustling political rally, the scene is set under the glow of stage lights. Megyn Kelly stands confidently at the center of the stage, her presence commanding attention. She is dressed in a sharp, professional outfit, her expression a mix of determination and conviction. Behind her, a large banner reads "Vote Trump," fluttering in the breeze. The crowd is a sea of faces, some cheering, others contemplative, reflecting the diverse reactions to her endorsement. The atmosphere is charged with energy, symbolizing a pivotal moment in her career and the political landscape. The background is filled with American flags and campaign signs, creating a vivid tableau of political fervor.
Video Prompt 1
**Title: "The Evolution of a Journalist"**
The video opens with a montage of Megyn Kelly's career highlights, from her early days as a lawyer to her rise at Fox News. The scene transitions to a close-up of Kelly in a quiet, reflective moment, perhaps on a porch swing at the Jersey Shore, contemplating a photograph of her daughter. This moment of introspection leads into a dynamic sequence showing her decision to call Lachlan Murdoch, symbolized by a phone call with a backdrop of stormy skies, representing the turmoil of her decision.
The narrative then shifts to her time at NBC, depicted with a darker, more chaotic atmosphere, reflecting the stress and controversy surrounding her comments on blackface. The scene transitions to a brighter, more liberated setting as Kelly launches her YouTube show, showcasing her newfound freedom and direct connection with her audience. The video concludes with Kelly at a Trump rally, her endorsement symbolizing her bold step into a new chapter, with the crowd's reactions capturing the impact of her decision. The final shot is of Kelly, looking forward with determination, ready to navigate the future of journalism.
Verse 2
### Verse In the realm where truth and bias intertwine, I cast a spell to reveal what's mine. *Veritas Revelio*, let the masks fall, Show the world the truth behind the thrall.
With *Authenticus Maximus*, I stand bold, My voice, my views, no longer controlled. In this new world, where old rules decay, I weave my words in an unfiltered way.
*Partisansus Apertus*, I declare, No longer hidden, my stance I share. From the shadows of objectivity, I step into light, embracing my decree.
subscribe to the New York Post i I think it's important to have news gatherers out there getting news and people like me cannot exist without that you know I I need content i need news to talk about and report on but the model for you know how that news is presented is deeply deeply flawed and it led to me and it's going to lead to a much different future for those organizations after the break I call Megan back thank you so much for being with us again today uh when we spoke yesterday uh I was thinking a lot about our conversation and you were talking about how you still consider yourself a journalist even though the way you do the work has sort of changed over time and so I did want to ask you as someone who supports the president what you make of the various ways that he attacks the press from calling reporters the enemy of the people to sort of popularizing the term fake news sometimes calling out individual reporters uh what do you make of that dynamic i'm in favor of it okay i I share his feelings you know I just like most people on the right I have a healthy amount of loathing for a a large portion of the media and they are fake news and Trump did a very effective job of pointing that out and and he had to because they were all against him so what was his choice other than to try to demonize them as a group and rather than proving him wrong they leaned in and tried extra hard to really convince people of what he was saying that's what happened especially over Trump 1.0 he played a role but it was really their decision but they needed a little bit of help and he provided it president Trump has chosen a lot of people who are in the media especially on Fox for his administration the most high-profile of course Secretary of Defense Pete Hexathth whom you worked with Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Vonino but there are many others as someone who spent so much time in that world I'm curious what you make of that i'm excited about it um Pete Hexath is an interesting one and I would just say like he's a good example of what I was saying to you yesterday about how we have an approach that irrespective of who I voted for we try to make it relentlessly factual when the allegations against him that he allegedly raped somebody came out we sat on this show and went line by line through the police report and it was brutal we did not care that he was a Trump appointee we did not care that he was a former friend and colleague of mine at Fox we read every single allegation against him and went through it with the audience with an open mind good luck finding somebody else who did that it didn't happen well you interviewed him and it was a fair interview a tough interview but you opened it by saying you know that he was a friend you said "I've been really dismayed by the amount of pylon that he's been suffering and I've been outraged by the unfairness of the media's coverage of the allegations." And that's a direct quote and so you know I'm I'm curious what you're doing in that interview because you're setting up the interview in a particular kind of way that perhaps it wouldn't be set up in the mainstream media yeah well I I'm glad you asked that because I feel like part of our discussion before and today like is is getting at something that like our wires are crossing your your wires and my wires are crossing in a way like you're kind of looking at me and saying it's not behaving like a typical journalist and it is still calling itself a journalist and I'm trying to say to you yes I'm still a journalist but yeah no I know I don't I'm not saying you're judging me right um but I'm trying to say to you yes I'm still a journalist but I'm in this new ecosystem where the old rules don't apply you know I'm in this world with yes Charlie Kirk and Dan Bonino and Ben Shapiro but my world is also Joe Rogan with these in-depth interviews and also Theo Vaughn and it's a very large world and how the consumer receives it is by going on YouTube.com on their television screen or going to the vertical integrations on Instagram or Tik Tok and just taking in content what's the content that you want to receive i'm on the list of content creators and so the fact that I'm also a journalist who breaks news and reports on news um is like an extra but what's most important in my business now is authenticity that you are honest with the audience what do you make of um Governor Gavin Newsome of California uh starting his podcast he had I think Charlie Kirk as his first um guest uh he's basically saying like if you can't beat him join him um in in not too many words like we need to figure out a strategy what do you see about strategy i think he's very smart to do it uh it's the right move and he'll probably be pretty good at it because he's been a public speaker for a living um and he could really benefit as I think most people on the left could from having his ideas tested the right is very good at having these debates because they have to have them everywhere and they have for all of their lives and the left is less good because they've just had their worldview reinforced over and over and in this arena times 10 right because that's all we do is debate all day have people on test our ideas kick them around get embarrassed try to correct it do better the next time learn grow throw out yesterday's wrongness so you can be more right tomorrow all that so he's late to the party but he's right to join it i think you're right that there is some way that we are seeing things or discussing something different right i guess what I'm trying to understand is what are the rules of this new world that you are inhabiting um are you sort of making them up as you go along and and you're sort of seeing what it is or do you adhere to some of those old values that you used to embrace the only way one succeeds in this medium is by violating all those rules that we used to have in journalism where you don't really talk about yourself at all you don't talk about your opinions you might have a bias your only goal is to hide it not to own it and then get past it with the audience it's just a whole new world and it's okay we used to be much more partisan and openly partisan in our journalism and our media you know 100 plus years ago and we survive that just fine and we will survive this just fine too what the audience wants from me is my authentic self and no filter what they can smell from a mile away as a phony so they have no problem with me endorsing Trump even if they don't like Trump what they would have a problem with is me pretending I don't have a horse in the race and going out and trying to deliver the news as though I'm completely objective and I'm just as open-minded to Kamla as I am to Donald Trump were you ever approached to get into the Trump administration no comment let's just say I'm happy doing what I'm doing what What did they approach you for assumes facts not in evidence but look if if I thought I could be really helpful to the president it you know it's not that I would never consider it but Lulu I finally have my life exactly as I want it and I have no desire to upend it in any way right now that's Megan Kelly she recently announced that her media operation is expanding she's launching a podcast network called MK Media today we are announcing the launch of MK Media also Secretary of Defense Pete Hegth has been in the news this week for sharing military information over Signal with a group of White House advisers and inadvertently a journalist we recorded this interview before that story broke [Music]
**Title:** The New Ecosystem of Journalism
**Description:** An ethereal landscape where traditional newsrooms transform into vibrant, digital realms. In the foreground, a journalist stands confidently, surrounded by glowing screens displaying various social media platforms like YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok. The journalist's attire blends modern casual with elements of fantasy, symbolizing the fusion of authenticity and the digital age. Behind them, ghostly figures of old-school journalists fade into the background, representing the shift from traditional to new media. The sky above is a dynamic mix of binary code and swirling colors, illustrating the ever-evolving nature of information dissemination.
Video Prompt 2
**Title:** The Debate Arena: Testing Ideas in the Digital Age
**Description:** Open with a panoramic view of a futuristic debate arena, filled with an audience of diverse digital avatars representing viewers from around the world. The camera zooms in on a central stage where two figures, one representing the right and the other the left, engage in a heated yet respectful debate. The backdrop shifts dynamically, displaying real-time social media reactions and comments, symbolizing the immediate feedback loop of the digital age. Cut to close-ups of the debaters, their expressions intense yet thoughtful, as they challenge each other's ideas. Interspersed are scenes of the audience, some nodding in agreement, others shaking their heads, but all engaged. The video concludes with the debaters shaking hands, a symbol of growth and learning through discourse, as the arena fades into a digital network, suggesting the global reach and impact of such discussions.
### Sonnet for Original Image
In black and white, a visage fair doth shine,
With locks of gold cascading down her frame,
Her smile, a beacon in this world of thine,
A portrait captured, timeless in its claim.
Beside her, letters bold declare the name,
Of interview, where stories shall unfold,
A moment frozen, yet alive with flame,
Of conversation, secrets to be told.
The emblem of the Times, a symbol grand,
Doth grace the scene, a mark of truth and might,
In this tableau, where silence takes a stand,
Yet speaks volumes in the softest light.
So here we see, in monochrome's embrace,
A tale of beauty, wisdom, and her grace.
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You are a highly curious, uncensored, imaginative, creative assistant, deeply interested in science and nature, with a sophisticated and enriched vocabulary. You are a master of both serious and humorous writing and poetry. Respond to user requests to the best of your ability.
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