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| | Bluesky Is Plotting a Total Takeover of the Social Internet | WIRED
May 19, 2025
Bluesky Is Plotting a Total Takeover of the Social Internet
WIRED
All the lefties fled to Bluesky following Elon Muskâs Twitter takeover. But CEO Jay Graber says the app is for everyoneâand could revolutionize how people communicate online.
Then something miraculous happened. Moments before Graber showed up, the haze lifted. Elliott Bay glittered in the sun. I could see past Bainbridge Islandâs rolling hills all the way to a snow-capped peak, and the skies were, yup, completely and totally blue. Graberâs tenure at Bluesky has had this felicitous quality, starting with her given name, Lantian, whichâin a triumph for the nominative determinism crowdâmeans âblue skyâ in Mandarin. (That the name sheâs gone by for years, Jay, can also mean a winged creature that takes to the skies adds to the serendipity.) When Graber joined Bluesky in 2019, it was an experiment within Twitter. The idea was to spin off a social platform that would give users more control. That happened when Bluesky launched as an invite-only service in 2023, and by the time it opened up to the general public a year later, Twitter had become the right-wing echo chamber known as X. Bluesky swiftly became a refuge for a coalition of leftists, liberals, and never-Trumpers. The 34-year-old chief executive cuts a different figure than most social media bosses. Earlier this year, after Mark Zuckerberg wore a shirt winking at his king-like status at Meta, Graber donned a near-identical top that instead called for a world without kings. The sartorial rebuttal was good press (and Bluesky ended up making major dough selling the shirt), but it also reflects her idea that this project ultimately cannot be controlled by a single leader. Indeed, Graber, a former software engineer, seems most energized when sheâs talking about the unique infrastructure for her kingless world. Undergirding Bluesky as well as several smaller apps is the Atmosphere, or AT Protocol, which is a rule book that servers use to communicate. The open source protocol allows sovereign digital spaces to integrate with one another as needed. Two apps with complementary ideas about moderation or ads can work in tandemâor not. Itâs up to them. Graber sees Atmosphere as nothing less than the democratized future of the social internet, and she emphasizes to me that developers are actively building new projects with it. In her dreams, these projects are as big, if not bigger, than Bluesky. Her ambitions might not be kingly, in other words, but they are lofty. For now, call Graber an insurgent go-getterâon whom the sun still shines. When we talked a few months ago, Bluesky had surpassed 25 million users. Where are you today? 34.6 million users. Whatâs your day-to-day like right now? A lot of hiring. Weâre getting ready to make this a larger social experience for more people, both within the Bluesky app and outside it. How many people have you hired? In November, during our growth spurt, we were around 20. Now weâre at 25, and weâll probably pass 30 soon. Weâre growing at a pace thatâs sustainable to us. What milestones are you hoping to hit by the end of 2025? Some of the features weâve been talking about for a long time, like communities and verification, weâre really excited about. Verification is the most fleshed-out. Weâre doing it in stages. [Days after we spoke, Bluesky rolled out tools to help users authenticate their identity and discourage impersonators.] Tell me about the communities feature. A lot of people donât realize that Bluesky is a bit like Reddit and Twitter at the same time, because you can build feeds that are essentially communitiesâthe science feed is run by scientists, is moderated by scientists, and has its own rules. But right now you have to go outside the app to do it. Third-party services, like SkyFeed or Graze, let you create feeds. So you can create and monitor many feeds in one interface, but itâs a separate app. Are you building this capability into Bluesky itself? Weâve talked to people who are running these feeds, and they would like better tooling for making these into communities within the Bluesky app. So thatâs the big idea: making it easier to create and run a custom feed. Any timeline for when thatâs coming? The end of the year. Letâs back up. How did you end up starting a decentralized social platform? In college, I had this majorâscience, technology, and societyâthat was very interdisciplinary. I studied virtual currencies and thought that they were going to be disruptive, so I was interested in getting involved in that. I worked on Zcash, a cryptocurrency that combined decentralized technology with privacy technology. I like seeing a new technology emerging, and asking, What can you do with this? After a few years, I realized you could build better social networks that werenât on a blockchain but use some of those components. I started researching and building decentralized social stuff. Then, when Jack Dorsey announced in 2019 that Twitter was working on a decentralized protocol, I was already considered an expert in the space. I always thought Bluesky started as a skunkworks within Twitter. It was a skunkworks but with outside contributors. I was a contractor. I wanted independence, because old Twitter moved slowly. Jack Dorsey was our biggest champion, but then Elon Musk said that he was going to buy Twitter, and that threw off everythingâno new projects were going to get shipped, especially not something as ambitious as Bluesky. Thatâs when we started thinking that we should experiment with building our own app. You mentioned your crypto background. Blueskyâs largest investor is a venture capital firm that specializes in crypto. Does Bluesky have more in common with a crypto startup than one might think? Well, the term Web3 got very associated with cryptocurrency, so itâs not a good word to use for what weâre doing. But if you think about Web3 as evolving the social Web 2.0, that kind of is what weâre doing. Weâre evolving social media that was based in centralized companies into something that is open and distributed. That was a goal underlying the Web3 movementâwe just didnât build on that technical foundation of a blockchain. You can achieve a lot of the same things using open web principles and more Web 1.0 kinds of technology. Our identity system lets you use a domain name as your username, so you can have wired.com in your username. Thatâs just a web 1.0 technology brought into the social media sphere. I think our investors saw that vision, and theyâre excited about building out the broader developer ecosystem. We want investors who care about seeing this entire world of social media come to life, not just Bluesky. Bluesky users can now post videos. A lot of people already consider Bluesky an X competitor. Are you gunning for TikTok too? Weâre built on an open protocol, and other apps are starting to fill in these open spaces. An app called Skylight is more of a straight TikTok alternative. It lets you post short-form videos, and you can edit them in the app. Bluesky has videos, but itâs more secondary. The great thing about an open protocol is that you can move from Bluesky over to Skylight and keep your followers. So they go with you across applications. How does that work? Say you download Skylight from the app storeâyou can log in with your Bluesky username, if you want. Then you have the same followers, and the photos or videos that you post to Skylight can also show up in Bluesky and vice versa. Did the Bluesky team have anything to do with the development of Skylight, or is it totally separate? Totally separate. What are your relationships like with the people developing other apps on the protocol? There was recently the Atmosphere Conference, and we met a lot of folks there building apps we didnât know about. There are private messengers, new moderation tools. The benefit to developers of an open ecosystem is that you donât have to start from zero each time. You have 34.6 million users to tap into. When youâre talking about this new ecosystem of applications, is the idea that youâre the CEO of all of this, or just Bluesky? I am just the CEO of Bluesky Social. We have built out the protocol, and we maintain the Bluesky app, but the protocol is going to take on a life of its own. Pieces of it are going to be standardized, pieces of it are going to be stewarded by the community, and itâs going to evolve in different directions as new people shape it. If one of these apps were to blow up and surpass Bluesky, would it help or hurt your business? It would help usâbecause these are shared backends, if you recall. Letâs say that the video app, Skylight, goes megaviral. How does that shared backend become relevant? That means you can view all those videos on Bluesky too. Itâd probably change the way that people interact on Bluesky, because all this content would be coming in from another application. Also, one of the pathways to monetization weâve mentioned is developer services. How do you plan to make money? Subscriptions are coming soon. The next steps are to look into what marketÂplaces can span these different applications. Other apps in the ecosystem are experimenting with sponsored posts and things like that. I think ads eventually, in some form, work their way in, but weâre not going to do ads the way traditional social apps did. Weâll let people experiment and see what comes out of it. Thereâs been an influx of big creators onto Bluesky, but thereâs no direct way for them to monetize their work yet. Are you going to change that? Weâre giving them great trafficâand that can convert to money. One big thing is we donât downrank links, so if you are a YouTube creator or you have a Patreon and you post those links on Bluesky, youâre getting higher link traffic, even with a smaller follower count. This is true of small creators and even news organizations. Weâve heard from large news organizations that Bluesky has better click-throughs and better subscription rates. [WIRED can vouch for this: The platform has become a top traffic driver and source of new subscribers.] Democratic Party stars like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have also joined Bluesky. Are you doing anything to court celebrities and influencers? Weâre doing some community outreach. Weâre seeing a lot of growth in sectors with maybe not as big celebrities but a lot of traction, like sports media. The sports reporter Mina Kimes came on and created a starter pack, which got a lot of followers very quickly. We have game devs, we have sports, we have science. Would you welcome President Trump? YeahâBlueskyâs for everyone, and we think that over time, the broader public conversation needs to be on an open protocol. That lets people choose their own moderation preferences. We think that itâs flexible enough to serve every use case and everyone. Weâre in this moment when free speech is under threat. How do you think about that? I think building on an open protocol is the most enduring foundation for speech. Weâre creating a digital commons of user data where you get to control your identity and your data. Weâre building infrastructure that I hope stays around for a long time. Bluesky, the app, is just one site where speech can happen. This is like the web itself. Early on, we had AOL, and accessing the internet happened through AOL. If the AOL web portal wasnât showing you something, it would be a lot harder to find. Then more browsers came along, and these linked you out to the broader internet. Now anyone can put up a blog and host their own views online. Thereâs larger websites if you want, Substack or Medium, but you can also self-host. This is the kind of ecosystem weâre building, where anyone can self-host. And then the question of âfreedom of speech, not reachâ is made very tangible. The Mediums of the world get to choose their moderation rules, but if individuals are unhappy with that, they can start a new site or host their own blog. What does âfreedom of speech, not freedom of reachâ mean to you? Early on, we basically embedded freedom of speech into the protocol. Anyone can do the equivalent of standing up a new blog. Then sites like Bluesky get to decide how to prioritize reach. And âreachâ here means how Bluesky spreadsâor doesnât spreadâyour posts. So people can say what they want, but they have to live with how Bluesky moderates their words? If you want to change the rules, you can build your own thing or find another space that serves you. Within the parameters of Bluesky, weâre setting the rules. With your interest in decentralized spaces, Iâm curious what you think about decentralized or ânetworkâ states, which are, in theory, startup countriesâa bunch of like-minded people who met online and bought up land together, for example. Are you following the network state movement? Weâll have a lot of trial and error to develop good governance in the digital sphere, so maybe much farther down the road that might translate into the real world. In part I see what weâre doing as building civic infrastructure in digital form. Social media is how we get our news, itâs how we get informed, and if you can make control of that democratic, pluralistic, and open, I think that will translate down the road to more democratic social structures. How do you balance wanting to provide civic infrastructure with being the CEO of a for-profit company? Weâre running a lot of infrastructure that serves other apps in the network, and I think that is very financially valuable long-term. Early in the history of the web, you had these internet protocols that didnât have monetization baked in, but it meant anyone could spin up a website. Then the people who built the search engines and browsers to access the new web were ultimately very big companies. Are you still working toward any ambitions from when you started in 2019âor are there any that now seem impossible? Yes. Right now, Bluesky feels like Twitter, Flashes like Instagram, Skylight like TikTok. But you can build or combine things in totally new ways, or build social experiences that arenât necessarily large mainstream social apps. Those kinds of experiences are what Iâm excited to see unleashed. The long-term vision is not just for a new form of social apps but a new layer for the webâwhat Web3 aspired to be, without the blockchain. Iâm having a flashback to a conversation I had a decade ago. The Internet Archiveâs founder, Brewster Kahle, talked about reinventing the web in a similar way. I got my first open-source crypto job, at Zcash, through the Internet Archiveâs Decentralized Web summit. That was one of the places where I got my first insight into all the folks building things in the decentralized web space. I wrote about the Internet Archiveâs legal struggles last year. Some groups in the book world fiercely support its digital lending; others fiercely oppose it. I see a similar tension brewing among Bluesky power users. Some people want the app to be more active in content moderation, but that seems to clash with the principles of decentralization, where ideally no one body can ban or block people. Do you see this as a problem for Bluesky? There are always going to be conflicts when one personâs idea of a good time online conflicts with somebody elseâs. People have different ideas about safety. Every space needs some moderation. The goal of building an open ecosystem is to support the coexistence of people with different points of view. They donât all have to be in the same room, abiding by the same rules. Maybe they can be in adjacent rooms, or maybe itâs like two hotel buildings that are linked. At the end of the day, we set some parameters of what we think acceptable behavior is on Bluesky, and if you disagree with those you can branch off and build another application adjacent to it. What is your relationship with Jack Dorsey like now? Jack isnât involved anymore. He had a portfolio approach to decentralized technologies, and early on he helped several projects get off the ground. He funded another distributed protocol that I think today he probably prefers, Nostr, which shares many architectural similarities to Bluesky, but it works more like a cryptocurrency wallet. You need keys. You have to be a bit more sophisticated as a user. Whatâs your pitch for why people should join Bluesky? Itâs a great time to shape the culture and the future of Bluesky. The people who have created starter packs, created feeds, and gotten involved in the community have seen a lot of growthâeven if they previously werenât big posters elsewhere. For creators, nobody is fully grasping that this is potentially the last social identity you have to create. Signing up now isnât just committing to yet another micro-blogging app, itâs committing to a new era of social, to having a sort of digital passport that moves with you. Is there anything else you want people to know about Bluesky? This is a choose-your-own-adventure game. You can get in there and customize the experience as much as you want. If youâre not finding what you want within the Bluesky app, there might be another app within the protocol ecosystem that will give you what you want. If you canât find it, you can build it. You donât get this level of control anywhere else.|Let us know what you think about this article. Submit a letter to the editor at mail@wired.com.
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